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CHEATERS :: Jul 20, 2009 @ 9:35am

Cabin Boy no.thank.u

Joined: Jul 15, 2009
Posts: 41

i found 2 more cheaters hidexs and blue.t_again.... they team up on ya then blue surrenders so hidexs gets da points :(
Re: CHEATERS :: Jul 20, 2009 @ 10:13am

Cabin Boy eragmus

Joined: Jul 27, 2008
Posts: 1522
Location: New Jersey, U.S.

just encountered hidexs + blue.t_again

they're funny bunnies

i think they practice a form of socialism... when one of them went from 2 to 1 stripe, the other would surrender and let the 1-stripe climb back to 2-stripe... it was cute like brotherly love or something

i feel they just want to have fun... and their surrendering to each other reminds me of desktop galcon where people sometimes decide another deserves victory and so a guy surrenders... and they're not really bad players either... our games weren't too bad :)

nanno, don't ban 'em i managed to get 14 weight and a respectable 63% ration vs both in 4-player FFA so they can't be that evil lol

haha and i've also found their gameplay slightly hilarious

PIX OF THE FUN:

<img src="http://files.getdropbox.com/u/285162/hideking-bluetree fun/photo.jpg" />

<img src="http://files.getdropbox.com/u/285162/hideking-bluetree fun/photo-1.jpg" />

<img src="http://files.getdropbox.com/u/285162/hideking-bluetree fun/photo-2.jpg" />

<img src="http://files.getdropbox.com/u/285162/hideking-bluetree fun/photo-3.jpg" />

haha it was funny to watch them circle "mint" and intimidate him when the game was basically over. i think these two guys are harmless... no banning required.
post updated on Jul 20, 2009 @ 12:44pm
Re: CHEATERS :: Jul 20, 2009 @ 1:34pm

Cabin Boy no.pwnage

Joined: May 13, 2009
Posts: 641

If they are unregistered, can i register their names?
Re: CHEATERS :: Jul 20, 2009 @ 5:13pm

Cabin Boy eragmus

Joined: Jul 27, 2008
Posts: 1522
Location: New Jersey, U.S.

:( don't do that aric
i wanna play them again... THEM, not you.
Re: CHEATERS :: Jul 20, 2009 @ 6:15pm

Cabin Boy heisenberg

Joined: Apr 30, 2009
Posts: 381

Ban them, steal their names, do wutever. These two are trash. 


Era i dunno how you can say that. Its plain cheating.
post updated on Jul 20, 2009 @ 6:19pm
Re: CHEATERS :: Jul 20, 2009 @ 6:20pm

Cabin Boy heisenberg

Joined: Apr 30, 2009
Posts: 381

Its a definate unfair advantage.

Then they sit there and rub it in like they actually earned the win. It counts against fair players ranks.
post updated on Jul 20, 2009 @ 6:22pm
Re: CHEATERS :: Jul 20, 2009 @ 7:17pm

Cabin Boy eragmus

Joined: Jul 27, 2008
Posts: 1522
Location: New Jersey, U.S.

well, at least in my games with them, the ONLY time the two of them cheated was when one of them lost his 2-stripe... and that was only for the first couple games after that happened... they stopped cheating after he got over it lol... they also cheated (were partial in who they attacked) when the fourth guy in the room left and it was only us 3 playing. 

but besides these two situations, they mostly played fairly and I got 9-5 vs one and 9-6 vs the other, proof that they could not have been cheating as badly as they're called out for cheating. sure, one of them feinted and pretended to come after me full force as if he was getting ready to suicide, but it turned out to be an intimidation tactic, no more... 

sorry heisenberg if they cheated badly when you played. maybe just leave their server if you don't like them. 

personally, i kinda enjoy playing with different personalities, and a cheater's personality can be interesting and all the more fun to beat ;D
Re: CHEATERS :: Jul 21, 2009 @ 6:45am

Cabin Boy heycanyou

Joined: Jun 6, 2009
Posts: 4

There is another cheater:
-loor, which is cheating with alder88:
they are so bad, but loor managed to be two stripes by teaming up with alder....
Re: CHEATERS :: Jul 21, 2009 @ 6:45am

Cabin Boy periwink

Joined: Mar 31, 2009
Posts: 412

Bluetree and nhideking strike again =]
Re: CHEATERS :: Jul 21, 2009 @ 6:51am

Cabin Boy heycanyou

Joined: Jun 6, 2009
Posts: 4

is it possible to ban them with their ip adress?
post updated on Jul 21, 2009 @ 6:53am
Re: CHEATERS :: Jul 21, 2009 @ 7:13am

Cabin Boy heisenberg

Joined: Apr 30, 2009
Posts: 381

so stupid!! Kill theeemmm!!!!

I was playin them tonight and couldnt tell they were cheating!! Thats how bad they were! Lol
Re: CHEATERS :: Jul 21, 2009 @ 7:17am

Cabin Boy Nanno

Joined: Nov 30, 2006
Posts: 4665
Location: Colorado

The Queen Bee
Loor is actually cheating with alter88 and pendragon. Very clever fellas! Looks like I might just have to be getting out the ban-stick of doom.
Re: CHEATERS :: Jul 21, 2009 @ 7:17am

Cabin Boy heisenberg

Joined: Apr 30, 2009
Posts: 381

Era what you were describing isnt cheating... I mess around and play head games too. What they do is surrender for blue.t_again.  If someone catches on, they easily pick them off together. Then with a 2 peice team they can pick off the 4th person easily. The only way to stop it is if two players who know wut theyre doing go after them. But its usually someone whos wise and a stupid noob. Guess what happens.
Re: CHEATERS :: Jul 21, 2009 @ 7:19am

Cabin Boy heisenberg

Joined: Apr 30, 2009
Posts: 381

Yay nanno!!!...


NANNO! Is there a way that instead of banning them outright, you could make it so they are frozen in every room they play in??? Or
maybe they cant produce ships!!
Re: CHEATERS :: Jul 21, 2009 @ 7:25am

Cabin Boy Nanno

Joined: Nov 30, 2006
Posts: 4665
Location: Colorado

The Queen Bee
Heisenberg, No there's not. And I really doubt Phil wants to spend time making that possible for the next update (sounds like a lot of work). What he IS going to do in the next update is make it so when someone is banned, they're banned forever. In other words, their particular device will not be allowed to play Galcon any more. They would have to buy a whole new iPhone in order to get back in the game. 

This is way better than IP's. IP's change, and sometimes banning an IP will take out an entire college or town, which I think most people will agree is not cool.
post updated on Jul 21, 2009 @ 7:25am
Re: CHEATERS :: Jul 21, 2009 @ 8:04am

Cabin Boy eragmus

Joined: Jul 27, 2008
Posts: 1522
Location: New Jersey, U.S.

Ughhh... Nanno, your intentions give me a bad feeling. Apparently, none of these players have been on the forums and haven't seen the complains. Maybe if they were able to receive a direct warning from Nanno, they might decide cheating isn't worth it and play fairly. 

The reason I'm standing up for them is because good players are hard to come by... yuma was a cheater before, but these days he isn't cheating and he's a fun player to play against. Same with hideking/bluetree... these two are fun players and even as heisenberg just posted above, THEY AREN'T REALLY CHEATING. If we keep banning the good players (who happen to be rebellious), then galcon is going to lose even more of the few players it has, and lose good players. 

Besides this aspect, it's just not fair for a player to have NO warning before their game is permanently locked remotely. Maybe, when banning a device, make it clear that the user is being banned for cheating and that the ban is for 1 day for a first offense, as a warning. Then, ban the user for 3 days, then a week, etc. There should be some way of the player knowing that others know he is cheating and that unless he stops, he will be banned. That's all.
Re: CHEATERS :: Jul 21, 2009 @ 8:08am

Cabin Boy heycanyou

Joined: Jun 6, 2009
Posts: 4

Eragmus said
"THEY AREN'T REALLY CHEATING"

Hum, i can assure you that they are... And it's quite unbearable to play against them...
Re: CHEATERS :: Jul 21, 2009 @ 8:42am

Cabin Boy eragmus

Joined: Jul 27, 2008
Posts: 1522
Location: New Jersey, U.S.

but you can always just leave their server, can't you? heycanyou just leave their server if you don't like them?? ;)) sorry i had to do that... lol

But yeah, as I said in my first post, I did not encounter ANY cheating in my 4-player FFA games with them... the cheating only happened during a 3-player game, when the fourth player left the server. Either way, I managed to win 9-6 and 9-5 despite the "cheating" so I just don't buy all these arguments against them. But if you guys feel they're cheating, just leave the server! If they follow you and keep suiciding you, that's a different issue... 

Either way, my post above is very important as to how to deal with a "cheater," in my opinion. Warnings first, always! They may just need a nudge in the right direction and a threat of having their game disabled for them to reform.

p.s. Who are you heycanyou?? I've never seen you around! Until now!
post updated on Jul 21, 2009 @ 8:43am
Re: CHEATERS :: Jul 21, 2009 @ 9:30am

Cabin Boy deuce

Joined: Apr 13, 2009
Posts: 680

Two things...

1. Era: they have been warned many many times. They have had countless accounts banned for the same reason. How can you say "they aren't really cheating"? That's bull****. They should have there devices banned for a WEEK, not one day. One day is just silly. Start with a week, then progress from there. Era, stop sticking up for good for nothing cheaters...

2. Heycanyou = Canyousee

See the resemblance?
Re: CHEATERS :: Jul 21, 2009 @ 10:15am

Ensign sky_lark

Joined: May 9, 2007
Posts: 1236
Location: North Carolina

I think that being banned permanently so they can never use Galcon might be a bit harsh, as it's possible that they somehow don't know about this.  I think that maybe banning them for a month and writing up a small message would be a good solution, and if they do it again then ban them permanently.
If it has been written down and they have been warned then I think it's fine to ban them permanently.  If they really want to get back in the game they can come on these forums and beg or something.

I got some screenshots of hidexs and blue ... not the best but they should give enough information.

[img src='http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2519/3743272206_e7fa04eb89.jpg?v=0'  /]

In this image, color blue is attacking me while color red sits and waits.

[img src='http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2446/3743272408_f9ebcc8600.jpg?v=0'  /]

New game. Color red is attacking me and color blue is attacking green. Something's fishy.

[img src='http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2611/3742482039_405b676bf9.jpg?v=0'  /]

Attacking color green seemed to have failed, so color blue and color red decide to team up on me. Notice color green is waiting - probably just confused.

[img src='http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2661/3743272706_eee5312bc0.jpg?v=0'  /]

Color green goes on the offensive, and color blue attacks.  Color red gets a name - blue.t_comeback.

[img src='http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3133/3743272868_1f6a8482f6.jpg?v=0'  /]

Color blue - now known as hibexs - takes out color green, and blue.t_comeback surrenders, giving hibexs the win.  Evil is in the air.

[img src='http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2452/3742482593_fb51f02a9c.jpg?v=0'  /]

New game.  I think blue.t_comeback is angry.  Also notice I had taken earlier damage from the lower left - probably hibexs.  They're both angry!

[img src='http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2654/3742482903_931e4d7aa4.jpg?v=0'  /]

I'm dead. :( hibexs attacks color green while blue.t_comeback defends from color green's desperate attacks.

[img src='http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3486/3742483083_426f70402e.jpg?v=0'  /]

Lastly, hibexs "saves the day" and blue.t_comeback waits.

I hope this documentation shined light on the frustrating situation.

Thanks!

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