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Re: Galcon Flash on hold for a while :: Oct 28, 2009 @ 11:13am

Lieutenant kriss

Joined: Jun 10, 2009
Posts: 48
Location: France

then just shutdown the flash version!

maybe desktop is better, i didnt test it, and i am not willing to test it atm..

some user cant install the desktop version (at work for exemple) and like the simple flash version

anyway, we would like some admin commands to be able to play without those multiple accounts guys for exemple
Re: Galcon Flash on hold for a while :: Oct 28, 2009 @ 11:13am

Cabin Boy txgangsta

Joined: Mar 12, 2007
Posts: 3206
Location: On the road again...

The update for flash is desktop. The end.
Re: Galcon Flash on hold for a while :: Oct 28, 2009 @ 5:45pm

Cabin Boy sky_lark

Joined: May 9, 2007
Posts: 1040
Location: North Carolina

- Flash is in your browser. Can be played faster and the servers are organized a bit prettier so it's faster to get a game. Flash is installed on nearly every modern computer so you don't need to download something else (InstantAction plug-in).
- It's much simpler. Sure, often times having lots of new features is good but frequently I just want to jump right in and play a competitive game of Galcon.

I admit, there aren't many reasons. But I like it and I'm sure others do so I don't think we should just say screw you like Apple did to PowerPCs. :)
Origional title :] :: Oct 28, 2009 @ 8:19pm

Cabin Boy benign

Joined: Jun 7, 2009
Posts: 261
Location: Your Pants, Bangkok

I could suggest to prevent random n00bs with random numb3rs, force them to choose a name no longer than 4 letters that will appear after "n00b-" and after they choose this name it cannot be changed. It won't make a huge difference, but it could help.
Re: Galcon Flash on hold for a while :: Oct 28, 2009 @ 8:35pm

Cabin Boy txgangsta

Joined: Mar 12, 2007
Posts: 3206
Location: On the road again...

benign, you spelled original wrong.
Re: Galcon Flash on hold for a while :: Oct 28, 2009 @ 9:37pm

Cabin Boy eragmus

Joined: Jul 27, 2008
Posts: 1522
Location: New Jersey, U.S.

Good reasons, sky_lark. That's what I like to see! Logic and reason, not defending something for the sake of defending something or for the sake of being "polite" lol.

Anyway, I posted somewhere in this thread that it was wrong for Nanno to suggest that Flash Galcon was being discontinued... so I totally agree that Flash should be maintained and improved to make it function better:
- no disconnect upon changing tab
- less lag, smoother ship movement
- buggy ship movement sometimes
- etc.
Re: Galcon Flash on hold for a while :: Oct 28, 2009 @ 9:50pm

Cabin Boy txgangsta

Joined: Mar 12, 2007
Posts: 3206
Location: On the road again...

Also, in a few days, desktop gets an update!
Re: Galcon Flash on hold for a while :: Oct 29, 2009 @ 10:23am

Lieutenant kriss

Joined: Jun 10, 2009
Posts: 48
Location: France

this is the flash forum, so dont bother us with 'desktop FTW is better, flash sucks' thanks
Re: Galcon Flash on hold for a while :: Oct 29, 2009 @ 12:24pm

Cabin Boy sky_lark

Joined: May 9, 2007
Posts: 1040
Location: North Carolina

Also, in a few days, desktop gets an update!


Huh!?
Re: Galcon Flash on hold for a while :: Oct 30, 2009 @ 5:28pm

Lieutenant kriss

Joined: Jun 10, 2009
Posts: 48
Location: France

i just request some decent admin commands, so we can ban guys with multiple accounts in the same game, it is really annoying, and we cant do anything about it, if we kick them, they just come back!

there are quite some players on the flash version,
and maybe they dont buy it because of this!
Re: Galcon Flash on hold for a while :: Oct 30, 2009 @ 8:13pm

Cabin Boy nanno

Joined: Nov 30, 2006
Posts: 2054
Location: Colorado

Yeah, Kriss, I know this is an issue and I'm sorry Phil hasn't gotten to it. I would love to be able to tell you exactly when he'll work on it, but at the moment I just can't. He's got a few things on this plate that simply cannot wait while Flash has no current deadlines. I'll definitely keep you guys posted when Phil gets some time to work on Flash, and I'll keep a little bug in his ear about it as well. =)
Re: Galcon Flash on hold for a while :: Oct 30, 2009 @ 8:26pm

Cabin Boy 885

Joined: Jul 14, 2009
Posts: 47

@eragmus
Honestly, I've played both, but I guess since I started on flash, I lean towards that one more.
The rounds are faster, even the ships move faster, the ships fleet size changes proportionally to the overall ammount of ships currently in the game (thus you dont have a huge fleet that takes up the whole screen and takes 20 seconds just to fully enter a planet, there is a maximum fleet size which keeps them agile).

I, for one, like the ability to make a sudden attack with 2000 ships that instantly explodes the enemy and does NOT slowly hit the planet giving time for the enemy to evacuate the planet and fly around (like it happens in desktop).
I also like to NOT have 50,000 ships... the uber long games are the reason I quit desktop after 2 days. (side note, I made it to 3-stripe on the first day, so I did get to play a bit)
I used to think Flash matches were long, but man, desktop ones are unbearable when it gets down to 3 players.
I prefer flash's graphics as well, and the ease to play it... just open a new tab on a browser and thats it, easy to multitask.
Most other features are better on desktop indeed, obviously. But I'm already used to flash, not only the controls, but also the speed, timing and looks.
post updated on Oct 30, 2009 @ 8:31pm
Re: Galcon Flash on hold for a while :: Feb 13, 2010 @ 2:59pm

Lieutenant kriss

Joined: Jun 10, 2009
Posts: 48
Location: France

Multiple accounts from the same guy is still a very big problem,
could you just limit from one connexion per IP ?
Re: Galcon Flash on hold for a while :: Feb 13, 2010 @ 3:01pm

Cabin Boy txgangsta

Joined: Mar 12, 2007
Posts: 3206
Location: On the road again...

I think he's given up on flash. Too many bugs.

But in fusion, only registered players can play, and most people can only use one name, unless they want to register 1,000 names and manually switch it every few rounds.
Re: Galcon Flash on hold for a while :: Feb 13, 2010 @ 3:12pm

Lieutenant kriss

Joined: Jun 10, 2009
Posts: 48
Location: France

as the game is "free" now, maybe he can allow players to register and play like it was in the beta, and forbid the game to the n00b-****
Re: Galcon Flash on hold for a while :: Feb 13, 2010 @ 3:43pm

Cabin Boy nanno

Joined: Nov 30, 2006
Posts: 2054
Location: Colorado

Multiple accounts from the same guy is still a very big problem,
could you just limit from one connexion per IP ?


Unfortunately this is not a simple fix for Flash because we can't limit it to one user per IP. College campuses, for example, have lots of students but often only one IP address for the entire college. Towns in remoter areas can have the same problem. Not sure what we can do about this right now. I'm sorry.
Re: Galcon Flash on hold for a while :: Feb 14, 2010 @ 11:49am

Cabin Boy the_musician

Joined: Apr 2, 2009
Posts: 559
Location: the.musician.is.in (at)g

Ever consider porting Flash Galcon to Silverlight instead?  Different plugin, a lot less buggy, and a ton less memory intensive.

I'd be happy to offer my services porting it.  Heck, even free of charge...
Re: Galcon Flash on hold for a while :: Mar 5, 2010 @ 4:36pm

Cabin Boy the_musician

Joined: Apr 2, 2009
Posts: 559
Location: the.musician.is.in (at)g

Exploring Multi-Touch Support in Silverlight:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/ee336026.aspx
Re: Galcon Flash on hold for a while :: Mar 5, 2010 @ 4:45pm

Cabin Boy eragmus

Joined: Jul 27, 2008
Posts: 1522
Location: New Jersey, U.S.

or convert to HTML5: no plugin needed, way less cpu/memory intensive, much more stable, accessible to anyone on mac, windows, linux as long as they use google chrome, safari, or firefox.. maybe also IE, but i dunno

plus HTML5 is the future, as it's being heavily promoted by google and apple.. and considering google IS the internet, yeah.
Re: Galcon Flash on hold for a while :: Mar 5, 2010 @ 5:21pm

Cabin Boy the_musician

Joined: Apr 2, 2009
Posts: 559
Location: the.musician.is.in (at)g

You mean this HTML5? :)

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/28/html_5_dream/

p.s. Silverlight doesn't even need a browser to work.  The winter Olympics were streamed in Silverlight.  Silverlight works correctly on all current browsers right now, HTML5 doesn't.  Doing heavy programming still requires some other language when using HTML5, but not with Silverlight.  

I do see HTML5 being a strong contender going forward, but we are still several years away from being able to RELY on it exclusively.  

http://www.uxpassion.com/2009/06/cool-facts-about-silverlight-penetration-market-share/
post updated on Mar 5, 2010 @ 5:38pm

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